I like investigating this stuff.So many small details that can make a big difference. Sometimes it takes awhile to get it right,but you learn a lot!
Statistics: Posted by Spud1950 — Fri May 08, 2009 12:45 am
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Thanks for your help researching this, I'm going to look at the guitar again tomorrow and will probably buy it.
Statistics: Posted by DanMac — Thu May 07, 2009 10:26 pm
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Statistics: Posted by Spud1950 — Thu May 07, 2009 9:40 pm
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Thanks for your ongoing help.
Statistics: Posted by DanMac — Thu May 07, 2009 8:42 pm
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Well there you go, Dan..the serial number jibes with the models' re-introduction, so it all looks pretty bona fide.
Keep in mind, too, that if someone was going to go to the bother of "faking" a vintage LP Special, they'd be unlikely to do the model you're looking at, as it's worth only a fraction of the value of a mid 50s/mid 60s one..just my opinion, of course !
Good luck, & please let us all know how you go...
Cheers!
Statistics: Posted by jeff mercer — Thu May 07, 2009 8:40 pm
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Looks legitimate to me,but I think this is where the confusion came from:
"Les Paul Special officially discontinued 1963 in name only (now officially called SG Special). Still in production today as the "Les Paul Special" in several different variations."
So,in 1976,although it really is basically the same guitar, it wasn't called a Special anymore. This must be why you won't find any with "Les Paul Model" on the headstock if you do a search for "Les Paul Special". I'll see if I can find a 70s "Les Paul Model" on the net.
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I found the info! After being out of production for some years, the former double cutaway "Les Paul Special" came back in 1976 with the"Les Paul Model" designation on the headstock. It's about the middle of this page.Of couse, a '76 version wouldn't be worth anywhere near a '50s or '60s version, but $600 US seems like a decent price to me if it is in real good condition. You might want to try to get a more expert opinion.
Statistics: Posted by Spud1950 — Thu May 07, 2009 6:59 pm
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Statistics: Posted by Spud1950 — Wed May 06, 2009 10:54 pm
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Thanks for the info. I must have been brain dead, I know the Juniors have only one P90. This guitar does have a serial number and I will attempt to get it from the guy and post it here.
Thanks again, Dan
Statistics: Posted by DanMac — Wed May 06, 2009 6:43 pm
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We'd need much more info to be sure, but a couple of things..
Juniors & Specials changed specs several times,but one thing remained the same..Juniors had 1 P90 pickup, Specials had 2, so that'll tell you immediately which model you're looking at.
Also, by the time the Special became a double-cutaway, it was re-named the SG special ( c.1959 ), and the "Special" designation was dropped from the headstock logo...
The price certainly sounds tempting, but I'd recommend you have someone knowledgable check it out before you plonk down any $$.
P.S...Does it have a serial number ?
Hope this helps,
Cheers,
Jeff.
Statistics: Posted by jeff mercer — Wed May 06, 2009 6:01 pm
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I am looking at a Gibson Les Paul that the owner is calling a Les Paul Special. This is a double cutaway guitar and the headstock simply says Les Paul Model, it says nothing about being a Special. I have looked at a couple of hundred of them on ebay and other places, and most of them have headstocks that say Les Paul Special, but I have seen a few that just say Les Paul Model.
Do you think it is a Special? Could it be a Junior? How can I tell for sure? The guitar is in very good condition but comes without a Gibson hardshell case. He's asking $850 CDN (which is roughly $600 USD.
What do you think? It's only the name thing that put me off, I really liked the guitar, it sounds great and is a fabulous player.
Thanks in advance for your input.
Statistics: Posted by DanMac — Wed May 06, 2009 9:36 am
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