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Statistics: Posted by Spud1950 — Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:40 pm
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Many of these guitars have sold on Ebay over the last 3 or so years under the various brands I mentioned. The Airlines are the most common, as is the blonde color. The red flame, in my experience so far, was unique to the "Old Kraftsman" label at Spiegel.
I'm curious to know if Wards actually "named" the guitar you posted, or tagged it with a Model #......probably would be unique to them, but I'd like to gather all information on the model I can from any sources.
I have a large collection of Bennett Blue Books, and it's interesting to see how the Teisco brand was represented in different ways by names and numbers...... I've had an extensive collection that I've sold most of on Ebay, including my Spectrum V and various Silvertones. BUT, this Kay has me fascinated......the tone and response is just amazing.
I'm keeping my eyes peeled for a nice blonde Airline to go with my red Kraftsman.
I hope the information keeps coming on this thread....This is GREAT stuff, they're great guitars, and it's a great learning experience.
Statistics: Posted by Pastortom1 — Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:24 pm
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From what I have seen so far I tend to agree with spud on the date of this guitar. When you say you have seen the guitar branded Airline and Truetone do you mean that you have seen this body style in Ward's and Western Auto catalogs from the late 50's-early 60's?
Here is a picture of a guitar that appears to be a 2 pup version of yours from a 1966 Ward catalog. This picture is fuzzy and your picture is fuzzy but it appears that this Airline has the P-35s in it. Am I wrong about that?
Statistics: Posted by VintAxe — Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:34 pm
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The P-35's were used late 50's and early 60's as well. So, we have a mystery on this one.
We know it's a Kay, branded "Old Kraftsman" for Speigel, but that's all. We have yet to come up with a year of issue, and/or a possible model whether by Kay or Kraftsman.
This guitar MUST be out there somewhere in printed page (unless of course it was an elusive "uncatalogued" model).......Since I have seen this exact model under 3 brandings thus far, I believe it almost has to be catalogued somewhere at some point.
This is a problem as well, since there are "Spring and Summer", "Fall and Winter", "Christmas", AND special sale catalogs for Spiegel in the various years of issue........They're not easy to snag either. We have various 62 through 64 issues and the guitar is absent so far.
If ANYONE has access to late 50's and early-mid 60's Spiegel Catalogs, and you can FIND the listing for this guitar, we will purchase the catalog, or quality scans of the page, whatever you choose.......
HELP us find this guitar if you can. I appreciate any info........ Doc
Statistics: Posted by Pastortom1 — Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:19 pm
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I've seen them by Airline (usually a natural maple color), Truetone (the same), and the Old Kraftsman (which this is) in transparent flamed maple red. I have found no marking to designate a model number anywhere on the guitar. I've fitted it with a custom Warmoth neck and hand-cut pearl accents, and adjusted it to some incredible fingering tolerances. In my opinion, it's a better guitar than any of the major brands I've owned and has amazing tonal qualities from the 3 Gibson P-35's (Kleenex-Box) it came equipped with. The vibrato is clearly made by Bigsby for Kay and works great with my updated tune'o'matic rosewood base roller bridge I fabbed for this body curve.
If ANY of you'se guys have info. on a model name or number for this guitar, PLEASE help me out here.
Statistics: Posted by Pastortom1 — Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:48 am
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