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It's well made and sounds great but does not have the same markings as any other Suzuki six string I have seen . It has one "S" on the head and is steel stringed. Any ideas..?
. It has one "S" on the head and is steel stringed. Any ideas..?- kiwiplucker
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always good to post pics when trying to I.D. a guitar.
I have some Suzukis...a 1948 nylon, a later one with real fancy bracing...looks like expensive house or furniture moulding...the third is a 1950, all have different labels, and I see a LOT of Suzuki labels on line here, seems they changed them often. I have also seen M Suzukis on the web in Japan, possibly a different company, I know the old ones have Fukushima on the label, the prefecture south of where we live and the location of the factroy for decades. The first Yairi left the Suzuki/Fukushima factory to branch out on his own in 1925 so they`ve been around a long time. My 1950 is a Kiso-Suzuki by the way.
I have some Suzukis...a 1948 nylon, a later one with real fancy bracing...looks like expensive house or furniture moulding...the third is a 1950, all have different labels, and I see a LOT of Suzuki labels on line here, seems they changed them often. I have also seen M Suzukis on the web in Japan, possibly a different company, I know the old ones have Fukushima on the label, the prefecture south of where we live and the location of the factroy for decades. The first Yairi left the Suzuki/Fukushima factory to branch out on his own in 1925 so they`ve been around a long time. My 1950 is a Kiso-Suzuki by the way.
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This link will help, but info is hard to come by:
http://nagoyasuzuki.blogspot.com/
The link isn't direct and the site is hard to use so here is a cut from it:
Suzuki Violin Company - Nagoya
Suzuki Guitar, or Suzuki Violin Company Nagoya (hereafter referred to as Nagoya Suzuki), is from the Nagoya area of Japan. One reference says...
"Masakichi Suzuki was Japan's first violin producer. His father was a samurai moonlighter and made shamisens in Nagoya. Masakichi succeeded his father's craft business that soon failed. In the push for westernization in Meiji, he naturally became interested in shamisen's western counterpart: the violin. In the 1880s, he started to manually produce and sell violins. He founded the Suzuki Violin Factory in 1900. By 1910, his factory was producing 65,800 violins per year. Nagoya became the manufacturing center of string musical instruments...
Suzuki Violin Co., Ltd.1-1, Hirokawa-cho, Hakagawa-kuNagoya 454-0027, JapanPhone: 52-351-6451Fax: 52-351-6453"
Suzuki Nagoya seems to be somehow a cousin of, and is as well respected as, Kiso Suzuki. Their guitars says 'est. 1887' but that date has more to do with their production of violins. The production of guitars seems to have started, like Kiso, in the 1950's. One web source claims that there is no relationship between Kiso Suzuki and Nagoya Suzuki. But the model numbers are so similar there seems to be more to the story. Both companies made guitars that commonly have a laminated back or sides, many times the top also is laminated, but the sound, playability, and volume are what makes them so popular. Both Suzukis used a very high grade of laminate and the construction usually shows a high degree of craftmanship.
Suzuki Nagoya made violins and mandolins, and is still in business making violins, but no guitars. They seem to have stopped making them around 1989.
Suzuki Nagoya had a 'Three S' brand of guitar that seems to be consistently very highly valued by everyone that owns one. They also produced an "Insignia" series of guitars in the 80's that had solid woods used in the manufacture and had more of an electric guitar-type of neck - thinner than a typical acoustic guitar.
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Now I own a M Suzuki Nagoya FW516 which is not a 3S brand and has M Suzuki inlaid on the head. Also it is not made by the traditional Nagoya company - Suzuki Violin Co., Ltd, but by Suzuki Instrument Mfg Co LTD instead.
So I can only presume that M Suzuki guitars are the Insignia guitars, not the 3S brand and are pretty special out of the Kiso Suzuki and Nagoya Suzuki bunch.
I bought mine in 1981 and have gigged with that for decades. So I bet that yours was made around the early 80's as Nagoya and Kiso stopped making guitars in 1986/7. The 3S brand ( 3 'S' letters intersecting at 0/60/120 degrees) was reasonably common in the mid to late 70's (I was there so I know
), but the M Suzuki brand only surfaced for a few years.
The number in the model lineup is related to the cost of the guitar. So a W300 was retailed for 300,000 yen, a W516 was retailed for 500,000 yen. The F means 'folk' The W means 'western'. The FW516 has bound headstock, fingerboard, top, 3 piece rosewood back and a laminated spruce top (I think), compensated bone saddle and nut. Tuners are top quality.
Hope all this helps.
http://nagoyasuzuki.blogspot.com/
The link isn't direct and the site is hard to use so here is a cut from it:
Suzuki Violin Company - Nagoya
Suzuki Guitar, or Suzuki Violin Company Nagoya (hereafter referred to as Nagoya Suzuki), is from the Nagoya area of Japan. One reference says...
"Masakichi Suzuki was Japan's first violin producer. His father was a samurai moonlighter and made shamisens in Nagoya. Masakichi succeeded his father's craft business that soon failed. In the push for westernization in Meiji, he naturally became interested in shamisen's western counterpart: the violin. In the 1880s, he started to manually produce and sell violins. He founded the Suzuki Violin Factory in 1900. By 1910, his factory was producing 65,800 violins per year. Nagoya became the manufacturing center of string musical instruments...
Suzuki Violin Co., Ltd.1-1, Hirokawa-cho, Hakagawa-kuNagoya 454-0027, JapanPhone: 52-351-6451Fax: 52-351-6453"
Suzuki Nagoya seems to be somehow a cousin of, and is as well respected as, Kiso Suzuki. Their guitars says 'est. 1887' but that date has more to do with their production of violins. The production of guitars seems to have started, like Kiso, in the 1950's. One web source claims that there is no relationship between Kiso Suzuki and Nagoya Suzuki. But the model numbers are so similar there seems to be more to the story. Both companies made guitars that commonly have a laminated back or sides, many times the top also is laminated, but the sound, playability, and volume are what makes them so popular. Both Suzukis used a very high grade of laminate and the construction usually shows a high degree of craftmanship.
Suzuki Nagoya made violins and mandolins, and is still in business making violins, but no guitars. They seem to have stopped making them around 1989.
Suzuki Nagoya had a 'Three S' brand of guitar that seems to be consistently very highly valued by everyone that owns one. They also produced an "Insignia" series of guitars in the 80's that had solid woods used in the manufacture and had more of an electric guitar-type of neck - thinner than a typical acoustic guitar.
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Now I own a M Suzuki Nagoya FW516 which is not a 3S brand and has M Suzuki inlaid on the head. Also it is not made by the traditional Nagoya company - Suzuki Violin Co., Ltd, but by Suzuki Instrument Mfg Co LTD instead.
So I can only presume that M Suzuki guitars are the Insignia guitars, not the 3S brand and are pretty special out of the Kiso Suzuki and Nagoya Suzuki bunch.
I bought mine in 1981 and have gigged with that for decades. So I bet that yours was made around the early 80's as Nagoya and Kiso stopped making guitars in 1986/7. The 3S brand ( 3 'S' letters intersecting at 0/60/120 degrees) was reasonably common in the mid to late 70's (I was there so I know
), but the M Suzuki brand only surfaced for a few years.
The number in the model lineup is related to the cost of the guitar. So a W300 was retailed for 300,000 yen, a W516 was retailed for 500,000 yen. The F means 'folk' The W means 'western'. The FW516 has bound headstock, fingerboard, top, 3 piece rosewood back and a laminated spruce top (I think), compensated bone saddle and nut. Tuners are top quality.
Hope all this helps.
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PickerAUS - Posts: 52
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I looked around a bit at the link provided, will go deeper ahen I have more time, but so far, I can say that some of those dates are off...as I said above I own a 1948 nylon string as well as a 1950 Kiso Suzuki...called a pick guitar here...both are great guitars. I was reading on line here this week that there may be a connection between Suzuki and Yamaha as well. I was reading at the Dynamic web site...Dynamics were a Yamaha line that pre-dated the FGs...those guys think that as early as the 1940`s Yamaha had been designing nylon string guitars but weren`t making them themselves yet...they think Suzuki was making the Dynamics and there was another compan called Tenryu involved too. One thing to note...record keeping didn`t seem to be a priority back then so I wouldn`t bet the farm that info found on the web is 100% certain...even the Japanese guys who write books on the subject can`t seem to be able to say for sure what they find is completely accurate. All very fascinating to me `cause I own guitars made by the builders mentioned at the link...the Sadao Yairis...AKA Sada... I have are outstanding guitars too... mine date from 1961 to 1971, but even the info on the Kazuo/Sadao connection is not totally clear...I`ve read they were brothers and/or cousins so things are still murky to this day, and Kazuo is alive but evidently not very talkative about the family history...continues to build the K. Yairi line...Sadao is now dead though his name continues to be used on guitars made today, but I wouldn`t compare the ones I see in shops today to the ones he actually built, and many Sadao Yairis made today are not built in Japan. There were many great nylon strings made in Japan...my Yamaha Dynamic seems to date to the early `50s according to the 3 digit serial number, it`s a #50 that was actually built for export...I`m up to 29 of the Dynamics now, thay came in several models and colors and are all solid wood. Have several of the earliest Yamaha classicals too, they resemble the Dynamics more than classicals we know today, and have a few other guitars made by different Japanese builders...got a Tazaki that is all solid wood and I think is Brazilian rosewood, paid $50.oo locally last summer...have another I got on line here, long story short...I ended up getting it for 21 yen...thats right...21 yen...turned out to be another all solid wood beauty, but nobody can read the guys name on the label so I can`t even do a search.
There are plenty of excellent old MIJ acoustics around...I see a LOT of Three S guitars which don`t seem to sell for much here, actually, many great old ones sell for very little compared to what people are paying for old MIJ Tokai, Greco or Fender Japan electrics these days...and thats why I have so many of them, they`re still dirt cheap for the most part...though there seems to be more people after them these days.
There are plenty of excellent old MIJ acoustics around...I see a LOT of Three S guitars which don`t seem to sell for much here, actually, many great old ones sell for very little compared to what people are paying for old MIJ Tokai, Greco or Fender Japan electrics these days...and thats why I have so many of them, they`re still dirt cheap for the most part...though there seems to be more people after them these days.
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Hey Sneakypete!
I've checked out your guitar pics and I'm impressed.
Re-reading the original post: Kiwiplucker refers to M. Suzuki in the Subject line and also refers to a single 'S' on the head.
THAT I've not seen before and I'd be curious to see a pic of the label as well as the headstock. In any case, I think you're right and I may be off in the manufacturing date.
As far as your 1948 Suzuki, well that must be one of the first after WWII. I do know that there were restrictions placed on building materials like wood that were used exclusively for rebuilding homes etc. so a 1948 would be one of the first post war guitars out there.
Thanks for the info on Yairi. In the early 70's I was told that K and S Yairi were brothers. Then I played both K and S Classicals (borrowed). Compared to a Ramirez, they were exceptionally well detailed when the Ramirez seemed rough. The sound was crisp, though there were differences in tone that was attributed to the depth of the top bracing and the thickness of the soundboard.
Thanks to this site I'm now on a quest in pawn shops, deceased estates and charity shops for old guitars!
I think with the Yamahas and others you have, could you check the labels for manufacturing companies? That would help in determining their history.
I must admit a bit of envy here. Your collection is amazing.
I'm not all that surprised that acoustics have fallen in popularity compared to the electrics.
Another site I found: http://servland.jp/positlog/080411TL.html
Includes model numbers and dates!
I've checked out your guitar pics and I'm impressed.
Re-reading the original post: Kiwiplucker refers to M. Suzuki in the Subject line and also refers to a single 'S' on the head.
THAT I've not seen before and I'd be curious to see a pic of the label as well as the headstock. In any case, I think you're right and I may be off in the manufacturing date.
As far as your 1948 Suzuki, well that must be one of the first after WWII. I do know that there were restrictions placed on building materials like wood that were used exclusively for rebuilding homes etc. so a 1948 would be one of the first post war guitars out there.
Thanks for the info on Yairi. In the early 70's I was told that K and S Yairi were brothers. Then I played both K and S Classicals (borrowed). Compared to a Ramirez, they were exceptionally well detailed when the Ramirez seemed rough. The sound was crisp, though there were differences in tone that was attributed to the depth of the top bracing and the thickness of the soundboard.
Thanks to this site I'm now on a quest in pawn shops, deceased estates and charity shops for old guitars!
I think with the Yamahas and others you have, could you check the labels for manufacturing companies? That would help in determining their history.
I must admit a bit of envy here. Your collection is amazing.
I'm not all that surprised that acoustics have fallen in popularity compared to the electrics.
Another site I found: http://servland.jp/positlog/080411TL.html
Includes model numbers and dates!
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PickerAUS - Posts: 52
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It`s not easy getting precise info on MIJ acoustics from that time period, there are pics of some in my Japanese Vintage acoustic vol.1 book with an MIJ Harmony that says made in Occupied Japan on the label, they say those had that label from 1945 to 1952 if I`m getting that right, I`ll ask my wife to confirm. I`ll post a link to the Yamaha Dynamic site I know of in Japan, several members have posted pics of theirs and it`s worth looking at, evidently some of them were made by the Suzuki that made violins, and there is a link in one thread that goes to the History of Yamaha book that says Yamaha was designing guitars in the `40s but didn`t have a facility to build them yet so tyhey aproached Suzuki, and as you`ll see at the link I will post, the Dynamic label went through several changes, and the white with red dotted border came in 1960 as did 6 digit serials. The JIS symbol seen on some guitars headstocks was introduced in 1963, so that helps in getting ballpark years for certain models, but not an exact date/year. The Dynamics were made at various times and a higher model number doesn`t always mean higher quality...in the book they have act 1 listing the No.45 in natural maple, the No.1, No.1B, No.2, No.4, and No.8...some were sister models...the No.2 and No. 20, the No. 4 and No.40 etc.
Act 2 saw the introduction of the more classical types ranging from No. 25...all laminate to the No. 150...Palisander rosewood and all solid wood...thopse came in the No, 25, 60, 80, 100, 120 and 150...they say those from the No. 100 up were made by the best luthiers in the shop...No.100 is solid maple, 120 is solid mahogany and 150 is solid rosewood...I own all but the No. 25 and in my opinion they aren`t as deeply voiced as the Dynamics, which were all solid maple as well, the earliest hybrids...kind of a cross between the classicals and Dynamics came in the No. 45 and No. 85...which had ivory tuner buttons, bridge and nut, the No. 45 did not but both mine are very much the same otherwise, and that maple they used is outstanding, really beautifully figured.
Act 2 also saw the export No. 30, 50 and 70 models...basically the same except for rosettes and inlays...all were solid maple...I have a No. 30 and a No. 50...which is the oldest Dynamic I own with a 3 digit serial.
Act 3 saw the No. 10, No.10A, No.10B, No. 20, No. 40, No. 80 and No. 15...which was another export model that came later.
Act 4 was the laminated S- Series Dynamics...two models...S-50 and S-70, historically important because they were the missing link between the solid wood Dynamics and the laminate FGs but not nearly as nice tonally as the solid woods.
I got my 1950 Suzuki...it has the year on the label...in an antique shop, so check those out too. Actually got my first Dynamic at the same place for $50.oo, and that one opened the floodgates.
link...
http://www.geocities.jp/mmasmcb/catalog.html
Act 2 saw the introduction of the more classical types ranging from No. 25...all laminate to the No. 150...Palisander rosewood and all solid wood...thopse came in the No, 25, 60, 80, 100, 120 and 150...they say those from the No. 100 up were made by the best luthiers in the shop...No.100 is solid maple, 120 is solid mahogany and 150 is solid rosewood...I own all but the No. 25 and in my opinion they aren`t as deeply voiced as the Dynamics, which were all solid maple as well, the earliest hybrids...kind of a cross between the classicals and Dynamics came in the No. 45 and No. 85...which had ivory tuner buttons, bridge and nut, the No. 45 did not but both mine are very much the same otherwise, and that maple they used is outstanding, really beautifully figured.
Act 2 also saw the export No. 30, 50 and 70 models...basically the same except for rosettes and inlays...all were solid maple...I have a No. 30 and a No. 50...which is the oldest Dynamic I own with a 3 digit serial.
Act 3 saw the No. 10, No.10A, No.10B, No. 20, No. 40, No. 80 and No. 15...which was another export model that came later.
Act 4 was the laminated S- Series Dynamics...two models...S-50 and S-70, historically important because they were the missing link between the solid wood Dynamics and the laminate FGs but not nearly as nice tonally as the solid woods.
I got my 1950 Suzuki...it has the year on the label...in an antique shop, so check those out too. Actually got my first Dynamic at the same place for $50.oo, and that one opened the floodgates.
link...
http://www.geocities.jp/mmasmcb/catalog.html
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so she says yes, the authors of the book wrote the MIJ Harmony labels made between 1945 and 1952 say Made in Occupied Japan.
- sneakypete
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That's very interesting. I wonder how they compare in quality and playability to the later 50's and 60's instruments?
I've dug out my password and set up some image hosting for myself. I took one pic of the label of my M Suzuki and tomorrow I'll do some decent pics of the guitar itself.
Try: http://krypt.ologic.org/music/displayim ... um=1&pos=0
and click on the pic to make bigger.
Maybe if I use the IMG tag....
Hmmm.. maybe not.
I've dug out my password and set up some image hosting for myself. I took one pic of the label of my M Suzuki and tomorrow I'll do some decent pics of the guitar itself.
Try: http://krypt.ologic.org/music/displayim ... um=1&pos=0
and click on the pic to make bigger.
Maybe if I use the IMG tag....
Hmmm.. maybe not.
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PickerAUS - Posts: 52
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saved a pic of an M Suzuki label on the web here now...
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i198/ ... s/2278.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i198/ ... s/2278.jpg
- sneakypete
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Same words - different label. Hand written model number too! I was happy to see that the single stylized S is on both of them. Any idea of the age of that instrument?
For a moment I assumed that M Suzuki and the Suzuki Instrument Mfg Co LTD are in their own niche! So I googled it and came up with this beauty:
"As a world leader in educational musical instruments, Suzuki has become a familiar name to nearly everyone in the industry. Since it was established in 1953, the company has been guided by its interrelated principles of "lifetime education" and "creative minds." The Suzuki Group consists of nine distinct companies, each dedicated to a different function in the common operation, including parts and machinery manufacture, distribution, educational publishing and software, and, of course, the crafting of fine musical instruments. The company also imports musical instruments and goods from various countries." (Quoted 2002 in a trade magazine).
It just adds to the mystery I suppose.
So there goes my perception of Master Craftsman, Mr M. Suzuki, with wedges splitting spruce, being served tea by his daughters....
"The rich variety from the Melodions and harmonicas to string instruments, and traditional instruments richly expands pleasure of making music such as ensemble of various instruments.
Many intelligent robots of the most advanced technology are used in processing and assembly lines at our factories: Main factory, Ryuyo and Tsumori."
http://www.suzuki-music.co.jp/en/esgif.htm
http://www.suzuki-music.co.jp/en/esgi.htm
I see that the stylized S logo is still around and to my perplexed brain, the current CEO is Manji Suzuki.
http://www.suzuki-music.co.jp/en/esgi.htm
Now I'm jumping to the conclusion, based on the manufacturing companies and the previous histories I've read, I think that the M Suzuki guitars have little to do with Nagoya and were created somewhere in the 1953 to 1986/87 timeframe.
I may just take an aspro and lie down.
For a moment I assumed that M Suzuki and the Suzuki Instrument Mfg Co LTD are in their own niche! So I googled it and came up with this beauty:
"As a world leader in educational musical instruments, Suzuki has become a familiar name to nearly everyone in the industry. Since it was established in 1953, the company has been guided by its interrelated principles of "lifetime education" and "creative minds." The Suzuki Group consists of nine distinct companies, each dedicated to a different function in the common operation, including parts and machinery manufacture, distribution, educational publishing and software, and, of course, the crafting of fine musical instruments. The company also imports musical instruments and goods from various countries." (Quoted 2002 in a trade magazine).
It just adds to the mystery I suppose.
So there goes my perception of Master Craftsman, Mr M. Suzuki, with wedges splitting spruce, being served tea by his daughters....
"The rich variety from the Melodions and harmonicas to string instruments, and traditional instruments richly expands pleasure of making music such as ensemble of various instruments.
Many intelligent robots of the most advanced technology are used in processing and assembly lines at our factories: Main factory, Ryuyo and Tsumori."
http://www.suzuki-music.co.jp/en/esgif.htm
http://www.suzuki-music.co.jp/en/esgi.htm
I see that the stylized S logo is still around and to my perplexed brain, the current CEO is Manji Suzuki.
http://www.suzuki-music.co.jp/en/esgi.htm
Now I'm jumping to the conclusion, based on the manufacturing companies and the previous histories I've read, I think that the M Suzuki guitars have little to do with Nagoya and were created somewhere in the 1953 to 1986/87 timeframe.
I may just take an aspro and lie down.
Last edited by PickerAUS on Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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PickerAUS - Posts: 52
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M stands for Manji - I'm 99% sure of that now.
Here's proof. The pdf link contains a speech by Dennis Fioramonti, from Hammond Suzuki USA at the 50th anniversary of the company.
"...We gather here today to not only celebrate Suzuki Musical Instrument Company for its completion of 50 successful years in business, but to pay tribute to the man responsible for making all this happen: Mr. Manji Suzuki.
His dedication and commitment since 1954, in promoting music education through the development of several innovative musical instruments, have evolved from his great determination and fortitude.
Mr. Suzuki started his company as a manufacturer for harmonicas, and now after 50 years of development and worldwide distribution, is recognized as one of its best leaders in this product category. ...."
http://www.hammondorgan.co.uk/b3/downlo ... es_001.pdf
And there's even a picture of him!
So I hearby take the self-appointed honor of calling every M Suzuki guitar as a "Manji" <takes a bow> - I even made him my avatar!
But I can't say for certain if Suzuki Musical Instrument Manufacturing Co. LTD actually built the guitar. I've not seen any reference to guitar production except the labels.
Currently they make spruce topped electric autoharps called Taisyokoto which is in Koto style. Tokai is in the same town and I wouldn't be at all surprised if Manji Suzuki got a few made next door. If I find a reference to them producing guitars then I'll post again.
I also read that the original Suzuki violin factory got bombed and stopped production, so your 1948 Nagoya Suzuki is getting rarer by the minute.
Here's proof. The pdf link contains a speech by Dennis Fioramonti, from Hammond Suzuki USA at the 50th anniversary of the company.
"...We gather here today to not only celebrate Suzuki Musical Instrument Company for its completion of 50 successful years in business, but to pay tribute to the man responsible for making all this happen: Mr. Manji Suzuki.
His dedication and commitment since 1954, in promoting music education through the development of several innovative musical instruments, have evolved from his great determination and fortitude.
Mr. Suzuki started his company as a manufacturer for harmonicas, and now after 50 years of development and worldwide distribution, is recognized as one of its best leaders in this product category. ...."
http://www.hammondorgan.co.uk/b3/downlo ... es_001.pdf
And there's even a picture of him!
So I hearby take the self-appointed honor of calling every M Suzuki guitar as a "Manji" <takes a bow> - I even made him my avatar!
But I can't say for certain if Suzuki Musical Instrument Manufacturing Co. LTD actually built the guitar. I've not seen any reference to guitar production except the labels.
Currently they make spruce topped electric autoharps called Taisyokoto which is in Koto style. Tokai is in the same town and I wouldn't be at all surprised if Manji Suzuki got a few made next door. If I find a reference to them producing guitars then I'll post again.
I also read that the original Suzuki violin factory got bombed and stopped production, so your 1948 Nagoya Suzuki is getting rarer by the minute.
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PickerAUS - Posts: 52
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I have three Suzukis and all have different labels...I`ve seen probably a dozen different Suzuki label over the years I have been looking at them. I`ll post links to pics of the ones I own...
1948...
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i198/ ... oon140.jpg
1950 Kiso=Suzuki...
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i198/ ... uki070.jpg
1948...
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i198/ ... oon140.jpg
1950 Kiso=Suzuki...
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i198/ ... uki070.jpg
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finally found the pic of my third Suzuki label...
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i198/ ... eIV051.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i198/ ... eIV051.jpg
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