can anyone date this Gibson 335 for me ?

[shahpur]

can anyone help me idate this gibson 335 , i was told it was a 1966 but i have my doubts.

The back of the headstock has no serial number ( it looks like it has been sanded , anyone knows why? ) , but it does have a orange label but it has been handwritten.

it comes with a 60s gibson case
The tuners are stamped Gibson Deluxe
The pickups are also Gibsons
As is the bridge

But i am getting worried as it may not be as old as i thought it was

here are some pictures

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/ ... pickup.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/ ... 5sound.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/ ... 35head.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/ ... 35full.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/ ... ckhead.jpg


shahpur

[simonm]

I don't know much about these, but Vintage Guitar Guy does:
http://www.provide.net/~cfh/gibson4.html#es335

1965 Gibson ES-335 guitar specs:
Trapeze tailpiece replaces stop tailpiece (Bigsby vibrato is also still available), chrome parts replace nickel parts, neck nut width decreases from the standard 1 11/16" to 1 5/8" or 1 9/16" (known as the "small" neck, and this subtle 1/16" to 1/8" change is very noticible to anyone familar with these guitars). These changed transitioned in during 1965, so a 1965 model could still have a stop tail, nickle parts, and a 1 11/16" neck (or have chrome parts, trapeze, and a 1 9/16" neck).
1966 Gibson ES-335 guitar specs:
Indian rosewood replaces Brazilian rosewood on fingerboard, peghead angle changed from 17 degrees to 14 degrees, bevel angle on pickguard changed so the b/w/b layers are less noticible

get measurin'!

[frankpaush]

..the control knobs look pretty 70s

[jedistar]

Did a search on gbase - there are lots of 1967s but very few 1966 which is interesting...

http://www.gbase.com/Stores/Gear/GearLi ... word=es335

pot codes might be necessary...

TRY THIS FIRST http://www.guitardaterproject.org/potcodereader.aspx

Dating any amp - source codes http://www.schematicheaven.com/mods/datecodes.htm

http://www.provide.net/~cfh/pots.html (includes Jensen speakers)

Tubes, Capacitors, Transformers, Potentiometers (controls) & Resistors, and Speakers http://www.triodeel.com/eiacode.htm

http://www.webervst.com/codes.html (note there are 4 pages of codes here) and more again at http://www.webervst.com/morecode.html

[shahpur]

thanks for all you help , i think it is a 69 as it has the orange label , 60s gibson case and Gibson Deluxe tuners


Thanks again