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by Badger » Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:15 am

Thanks to all for previous advice and info. The purpose of this post is to sum up what I've gotten so far (from here and the Ibanez forum), and get some final input so I can make a decision. I'll try to make this as short as I can.
Here goes...My Ibanez 2454...Notice the bridge...
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Ibanez 2454 from someone elses post...
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It seems that mine is not the stock bridge. I can't get the intonation quite right because some strings are as long as I can get them, but they're still sharp. The string height is as low as it will go (the relief seems perfect) and I'd like to go a bit lower. So, what are the pros and cons of a new bridge? I'm inclined to live with the current one to preserve the integrity. If I decide to replace it, what kind should I use? Do I have any chance of finding an original one?
The second thing is the electronics. I've gotten several opinions on this. All of the pots show their age (scratchy sound, dead spots). The plug is loose in the jack. It hums like crazy. It needs to be wiggled just right to make contact. I've also wrapped a ring of foil around the base of the jack to alleviate this. It makes me think it's some sort of grounding problem. I'm sure someone has experience on the technical electronic stuff. So, my first thought was to replace everything but the pups (no problems there, they sound great). I've been told this will decrease the value and collectibility, but someone else said it won't. Another option is to clean the pots and adjust the jack. Any more advice on how to do this is welcome. I'm open to doing either of these. The selling value isn't really an issue since that's not what I have in mind (though everything has it's price, they'll probably pry my cold dead fingers off the neck). At this point, with all things considered, I'm leaning toward having a pro install new pots, jack, and switch (the whole assembly from "MOJO" is $90 USD). Another option is to take a shot at installing the assembly myself.
So to sum up; 1.Replace the bridge or not. Replace it with what? 2.Try to remedy the stock electronics(again, additional advice on this is quite welcome) or replace them? Give a go myself or pay a pro?
No offence to any of the other forums, but I think you guys have a more thorough pool of knowledge and experience on vintage guitars. My apologies for being so lengthy, but I think you can understand my passion on this.
Thank you all for your time and expertise.

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by Badger » Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:36 am

The intonation is OK on the 1st(E) and the 5th(A). The rest of them are sharp. As it is now, I can't make the strings any longer. I was thinking of taking off the little springs and/or the "washers" behind the rollers on the bridge so I can bring them back further. Any thoughts?

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by wietse » Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:21 am

just get a standard tuneomatic bridge, your guitar is now equiped with a roller bridge and there is no need for on your guitar.
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by mrblanche » Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:53 am

Did you check with the guys on ? There are guys there who can tell you every little thing about that guitar. The only danger of going there is that one of them may make you an offer for it that you can't refuse!

If you make a change, keep all the old parts and don't make any changes that can't be easily reversed.
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by Badger » Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:17 am

I installed the tune-o-matic bridge and the difference is astounding. Intonation is perfect and the tone is remarkably better. Thanks a bunch!

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by cheepaxes » Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:14 pm

I would endeavor to clean the pots before I thought about replacing them. First I'd work them back and forth for 5-10 minutes. If that doesn't work I'd spray Caig DeOxit on the the pot shafts with the pots in place and work them. If that doesn't work I'd tie a string around the shaft, take off the retaining nut so you drop it into the guitar and try to get it into a position where you can spray into the inside of the pots through the F hole. The string is so you can pull the pot back through the hole and reinstall it when you're finished spraying it. Try to avoid spraying your guitar's finish with the DeOxit.

In my (admittedly limited) experience, there's a 95% chance that you can fix the pots that way.

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